Eric Miller talks with Vinnie Fisher and Esther Pacheco about mandatory reporting, trauma, and crisis.

Esther is a licensed professional counselor and registered play therapist. She has been working with kids in Delaware, Ohio, in private practice for the last 10 years. She has a passion to to help kids and families figure out life together.

Vinnie has been married to Debbi for almost 25 years and has 4 beautiful children. Vinnie is the CEO and co-founder of Fully Accountable which opened in early 2015. Part of his business is to help companies through worst-case scenario strategies.

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